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« Odgovori #600 u: 09-06-2009, 22:30:38 »
Nemre to biti kraj F1,budu oni već nekaj skemijali,prevelika je lova u igri. :ok:
 

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« Odgovori #601 u: 10-06-2009, 09:09:20 »
Nemre to biti kraj F1,budu oni već nekaj skemijali,prevelika je lova u igri. :ok:

Upravo se o tome i radi. Ovo što FIA pokušava je totalni idiotizam! Na ovaj način se elitni sport kao što je Formula 1 lagano spušta u rang Škoda Fabia Cup-a!!! Ne vidim da se veliki sponzori koji pumpaju novac u sport guraju u natjecanja tog tipa!!!
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« Odgovori #602 u: 10-06-2009, 20:51:28 »
Kimi legenda  :hehe:

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« Odgovori #603 u: 10-06-2009, 20:55:50 »
prije seljacina  :rolll:
... a htio sam crnu...
 

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« Odgovori #604 u: 11-06-2009, 07:58:30 »
stara stvar  :craz rasprava se vec vodila na tu temu..i to zucna...slazem se s fbajlom...ako se spuste na taj nivo ode f1 u gnjurac...nis gledat cemo fabiju kup :craz
 

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« Odgovori #605 u: 15-06-2009, 10:17:29 »
Formula One bosses' glut of meetings will roll into yet another week on Monday, as the rebel FOTA alliance jets into Heathrow airport.

After the May 29 entry application deadline and the June 12 publication of the 2010 entry list by the sport's governing body FIA, the next 'D-Day' is set for Friday June 19.

The latest demand from the FIA is that the eight Formula One Teams Association members' conditional entries be dropped by that date. Renault, Ferrari, Toyota, BMW, McLaren, Brawn, Red Bull and Toro Rosso continue to insist that their own common demands be met.

The hope for the next London summit must be that the seemingly ever-deteriorating, ever-improving crisis can be resolved before the Friday close-of-business deadline, when the cars are due to be practicing at Silverstone ahead of the British Grand Prix.

The F1 drama intervened even at Le Mans this weekend, where the French circuit played host to the world-famous 24 hour sports car race.

FOTA chairman and Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo was on hand to start the fabled event, and took another opportunity to warn that the teams are serious about abandoning the Formula One series.   

"If it is necessary, the big manufacturers are ready to organise an alternative World Championship," he told Italy's Sky television.

As for the coincidence of the F1 crisis and his visit to the Circuit de la Sarthe, Montezemolo admitted that seeing a red car in the top LMP1 class at Le Mans is a possibility: "A Ferrari at Le Mans? Why not?"

"If we can no longer race in F1 this would definitely be an option."

On Friday the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) released a statement supporting the FOTA teams and insisted that "the current governance system cannot continue."

The ACEA also indicated its readiness to assist the FOTA members in establishing "an alternative way to practice this sport in a manner which provides clarity, certainty of rules and administration, and a fair allocation of revenues to the competing teams."
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« Odgovori #606 u: 16-06-2009, 18:39:13 »
 

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« Odgovori #609 u: 19-06-2009, 08:29:56 »
E ja ovo ne vjerujem.... :o000: :o000:
http://www.f1racing.com.hr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=890:fota-pokree-novu-seriju-i-svjetsko-prvenstvo&catid=34:najnovije-vijesti&Itemid=54

Nekako vjerujem da će se FOTA i FIA nakon ove prijetnje ipak nekako dogovoriti oko sezone 2010.

Ali ako se i ne dogovore, i ako se osnuje nova serija u kojoj će biti sve najjače momčadi, vozači, sponzori, ... to bi bilo super.
Jer FIA je u zadnjih par godina sa tim glupim pravilima (jedan dobavljač guma, blokada okretaja motora, zamrznut razvoj motora, isti ECU za sve motore, izbačen traction control, trajanje motora dvije utrke...) toliko srozala F1 kao nikad do sada, a još najavljuju nova pravila (isti dobavljač motora za sve momčadi, zabranjeno nadoljevanje goriva, i slične gluposti), tako da bi u skoro vrijeme pretvorili F1 iz vrha tehnološkog napretka u obično CUP natjecanje.

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« Odgovori #610 u: 19-06-2009, 09:06:12 »
TEAMS ANNOUNCE BREAKAWAY SERIES

In the dead of Thursday night in England, the eight Formula One Teams' Association members issued a statement announcing that a breakaway world championship will be formed.

The announcement came on the eve of the FIA's Friday deadline for making unconditional entries for the official Formula One series, and amid the sides' deadlocked negotiations about income, governance and rules.

"The FIA and the commercial rights holder have campaigned to divide FOTA," the statement read. "The wishes of the majority of the teams are ignored.

"Furthermore, tens of millions of dollars have been withheld from many teams by the commercial rights holder, going back as far as 2006."

The statement was issued on behalf of BMW, Brawn, Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota and the two Red Bull owned teams.

"These teams therefore have no alternative other than to commence the preparation for a new championship which reflects the values of its participants and partners," said FOTA.

The details of the new series, including a name, circuits and starting year, have not yet been announced. At present its grid would feature 16 cars, unless the eight involved teams each field three drivers.

"This series will have transparent governance, one set of regulations, encourage more entrants and listen to the wishes of the fans, including offering lower prices for spectators worldwide, partners and other important stakeholders,” the statement continued.

"The major drivers, stars, brands, sponsors, promoters and companies historically associated with the highest level of motorsport will all feature in this new series."

The formation of the series will spark more political turmoil, especially given that Ferrari and the Red Bull teams were unconditionally included on the FIA's entry list, due to disputed agreements with the F1 ruling bodies.

F1 Chief Executive Bernie Ecclestone, whose Formula One Management is contracted to and aligned with the FIA and President Max Mosley, has already vowed to legally challenge the defection of teams, and any attempts to negotiate with his contracted promoters and TV broadcasters.

The inclusion on the breakaway series of loved venues including Monaco, Spa and Monza will therefore be contested, while FOTA's plans do not involve the successful British team and expelled FOTA member Williams, which like Force India is committed to the FIA championship next year.   
 


FOTA statement in full
“Since the formation of FOTA last September the teams have worked together and sought to engage the FIA and commercial rights holder, to develop and improve the sport.

“Unprecedented worldwide financial turmoil has inevitably placed great challenges before the F1 community. FOTA is proud that it has achieved the most substantial measures to reduce costs in the history of our sport.

“In particular the manufacturer teams have provided assistance to the independent teams, a number of which would probably not be in the sport today without the FOTA initiatives. The FOTA teams have further agreed upon a substantial voluntary cost reduction that provides a sustainable model for the future.

“Following these efforts all the teams have confirmed to the FIA and the commercial rights holder that they are willing to commit until the end of 2012.

“The FIA and the commercial rights holder have campaigned to divide FOTA.

“The wishes of the majority of the teams are ignored. Furthermore, tens of millions of dollars have been withheld from many teams by the commercial rights holder, going back as far as 2006. Despite this and the uncompromising environment, FOTA has genuinely sought compromise.

“It has become clear however, that the teams cannot continue to compromise on the fundamental values of the sport and have declined to alter their original conditional entries to the 2010 World Championship.

“These teams therefore have no alternative other than to commence the preparation for a new Championship which reflects the values of its participants and partners. This series will have transparent governance, one set of regulations, encourage more entrants and listen to the wishes of the fans, including offering lower prices for spectators worldwide, partners and other important stakeholders.

“The major drivers, stars, brands, sponsors, promoters and companies historically associated with the highest level of motorsport will all feature in this new series.”

E.A. © CAPSIS International
Source: GMM
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« Odgovori #611 u: 19-06-2009, 09:38:16 »
zabranjeno nadoljevanje goriva, i slične gluposti),

ovo nije glupost....ovo bi jedva dočekao.
MiTo
 

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« Odgovori #612 u: 19-06-2009, 10:43:26 »
ovo nije glupost....ovo bi jedva dočekao.

Možda ti se želja ostvari pa ćeš to gledati u F1, a ako se sve ovo ostvari vjerujem da će 2010. većina gledati novu FOTA-inu seriju :hap:

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« Odgovori #613 u: 19-06-2009, 14:53:30 »
imala je fia nekih dobrih pravila, recimo da je oko 30 posto pravila bilo oko, samo ovih 70 posto su  :batin, npr da motor traje duze i gume i da se ne dolijeva, to mi je dobro pravilo, i zadnje krilo pa da je lakse prestizati, a ovo ostalo.....vise-manje
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« Odgovori #614 u: 19-06-2009, 17:05:17 »
Max Mosley bi trebao dati ostavku.

 

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« Odgovori #615 u: 19-06-2009, 19:05:14 »
Max Mosley bi trebao dati ostavku.



Sad sam gledao na BBC- ju, kako su copili Ecclestonea u boxu. Pravi se lud. Kaze: Pitajte Mosleya
 

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« Odgovori #616 u: 19-06-2009, 19:49:33 »
doljevanje goriva je tek opet dopušteno od 1994. Dugo je bilo zabranjeno doljevanje goriva.

Kockasti auto, najbolji auto.
 

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« Odgovori #617 u: 20-06-2009, 10:07:41 »
Sjećam se tih vremena kada bi vodeći 100 metara prije cilja ostao bez goriva. Dizala se noga s gasa u zadnjim krugovima samo da bi se dokotrljalo do cilja, a Prost je tada izjavio: Ja sam vozač F1, a ne taksist. Bolidi su nosili po 220 litara goriva, bili su jureće cisterne. Ne ponovilo se.
 

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« Odgovori #618 u: 20-06-2009, 10:11:47 »
Sjećam se tih vremena kada bi vodeći 100 metara prije cilja ostao bez goriva. Dizala se noga s gasa u zadnjim krugovima samo da bi se dokotrljalo do cilja, a Prost je tada izjavio: Ja sam vozač F1, a ne taksist. Bolidi su nosili po 220 litara goriva, bili su jureće cisterne. Ne ponovilo se.

sredina 80 ih pred zabranu turbaka. Prvo je fia ograničilla pritisak turba, onda količinu goriva dva puta i to je dovodoilo do toga da su bolidi ostajali bez goriva. S uvodđenjem atmosferaca i zabranom turbaka taj se problem riješio.
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« Odgovori #619 u: 20-06-2009, 15:13:52 »
80-tih su bili pravi bolidi. Npr. Bmw koji je imao motor od 1300 - 1500 konja. A vozači su bili pravi, ipak trebalo je to voziti. Jedan je izjavio da je nekad znao povratiti u kacigu kolike su sile bile. I nije bilo sve te elektronike...
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« Odgovori #621 u: 21-06-2009, 00:09:28 »
Button će pobjedit...
    "...if in doubt, flat out..."   
 

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« Odgovori #622 u: 21-06-2009, 00:13:59 »
Button će pobjedit...

1. vettel
2. webber
3. button

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« Odgovori #623 u: 21-06-2009, 00:14:37 »
Button će pobjedit...  :craz
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« Odgovori #624 u: 21-06-2009, 00:16:12 »
Button će pobjedit...  :craz

 :ne: :ne: :ne: :ne:

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« Odgovori #625 u: 22-06-2009, 15:49:04 »
 

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« Odgovori #626 u: 23-06-2009, 15:46:14 »
Evo da se i mi malo bavimo tračarenjem:

Citat:
FOTA’s rumoured ‘new F1′ calendar for 2010 revives USA and Canadian rounds

3 March - Buenos Aires, Argentina (last F1 race: 1998)
21 March - Mexico City, Mexico (last F1 race: 1992)
11 April - Jerez, Spain (last F1 race: 1997)
25 April - Portimao, Portugal
2 May - Imola, Italy (last F1 race: 2006)
23 May - Monte Carlo, Monaco
6 June - Montreal, Canada (last F1 race: 2008)
13 June - Indianapolis, United States (last F1 race: 2007)
1 July - Silverstone, United Kingdom
25 July - Magny-Cours, France (last F1 race: 2008)
15 August - Laustizring, Germany
29 August - Helsinki, Finland
12 September - Monza, Italy
26 September - Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
10 October - Marina Bay, Singapore
24 October - Suzuka, Japan
8 November - Adelaide (last F1 race: 1995) or Surfers’ Paradise, Australia
 

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« Odgovori #627 u: 23-06-2009, 19:23:38 »
Evo da se i mi malo bavimo tračarenjem:


Adelaide!  :love3: :love: Još da Spa nažicaju i savršenstvo!
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« Odgovori #628 u: 23-06-2009, 20:24:08 »
šta nemaju neki od tih pisti ugovor s eclestonom,neku vrst exkluzive? :?:
 

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« Odgovori #629 u: 23-06-2009, 20:51:40 »
...dolje stari prdonjeeeee........    :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: